REALLY dumb question!

[eddie]

Hello!

Im doing some shooting this weekend and I just want to make absolutley sure I dont screw up and get a blue tinted movie! so here is the stupid question [img]smile.gif[/img]

Please can someone confirm that when shooting K40 outdoors I DONT need the filter in place...?

This film is balanced for outdoor shooting right?

so I only need the filter when shooting in other than sunlight?

Thats right isnt it???

Thanks in advance! [img]wink.gif[/img]

[eddie]

Doh!

Totally wrong!

Heres my answer from
www.widescreen-centre.co.uk

>Question. On Super 8 cameras, what is the
>Daylight/Indoor switch for?

>Answer. The Super 8 colour films are all
>Tungsten balanced. That is to say that the film
>is designed to be used under artificial lighting
>(not fluorescent). When using the film outside
>in daylight, with the switch in the sunny
>position, the 85B conversion filter built into
>the lens is in position, changing the light
>entering the lens to artificial light. This
>effectively makes the film speed about 1 stop
>slower, Kodachrome 40 becomes 25, Ektachrome 125
>becomes 80.

>When using the films inside they are at there
>full speed with the switch in the Indoor
>setting. This is important as there is generally
>less light available inside anyway. The meter
>will automatically adjust for the different
>switch positions.

>Question. Why has my film come out all blue?

>Answer. A common problem. The reason is that the
>Daylight/Indoor switch has been set to the wrong
>position, Indoors when shooting outdoors. When
>changing from outside to inside always remember
>to reset the conversion switch.

So Filter in place when outside.....glad I checked....

[blackangus1]

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It's easier to cut a scene that doesn't work well with the delete key than after you've spent all the time, money & effort...

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That is a gem -- profound wisdom, succinctly put!

[Matt Pacini]

Boy, is it tough to correct after you've shot without the filter too.
I shot a two-camera scene in Lost Tribes, and one of the cameras ended up accidentally without the filter in place.
Looked really greenish-blue, sickly garish, and it cost me quite a bit of money in telecine getting it to look decent, and it never did look as good as the footage from the camera with the filter in it.
Ironically, I ended up cutting the scene altogether. (That kind of thing is really painful, and was a good lesson in WRITING!
It's easier to cut a scene that doesn't work well with the delete key than after you've spent all the time, money & effort...

Matt Pacini

[Actor]

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So is there any difference between using a built-in 85/daylight filter with t-balanced film and screwing on a lens filter?
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There is no difference.
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I had the internal filters removed on my Beaulieu, and so need to filter for daylight when shooting exteriors.
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Unless you are shooting one of Pro8mm's daylight balanced films you do need the amber 85 filter outdoors. No filter is needed indoors. If you shoot daylight balanced film indoors under tungsten light you need either an 80A(3200K) or 80B(3400K) filter.

If you shoot K40 indoors under fluorescent light you need an FL-B filter.

[calgodot]

So is there any difference between using a built-in 85/daylight filter with t-balanced film and screwing on a lens filter?

I had the internal filters removed on my Beaulieu, and so need to filter for daylight when shooting exteriors.

My own brain tells me there's no difference, but I want to pass it before the Super 8 Group Mind.